Complaints about the Mount Hot Pools have resumed – barely a week after the facility re-opened following an 18 week emergency closure for repairs.
Customers are saying the pools are too cold, they miss the shade sail, the showers don't work properly and one of the spa pools has been concreted in.
Mount Hot Pools.
One of the two spa pools has been filled with sand and concreted over because it could not be left empty and the piping failed a pressure test.
Tauranga City Aquatics Ltd CEO Tania Delahunty says this was done because in the redevelopment plans this pool was to be removed.
A decision's been made to not spend the $30,000 required to fix the spa pools and instead to temporarily remove the spa pool from use.
In response to the cold water complaint, an issue raised by Councillor Catherine Stewart at a projects and monitoring committee meeting, Tania said it was because of a part failure.
She says the variable speed drive has been replaced under warranty and the temperatures are now back to normal.
These problems are being dealt with during normal business because TCAL decided to re-open the pools on time and test as they carried on, instead of delaying the re-opening.
Customers were offered free or heavily discounted entry on days when pool temperatures were down, says Tania.
The shade sail over the pool hasn't been reinstated because its supports are corroded and it poses a safety risk.
TCAL is seeking council funding to install the new umbrellas prior to summer.
The foundations for large new umbrellas, planned as part of the proposed redevelopment, were installed in the concourse area around the pools during the recent pool closure.
A new piping layout has brought about a shift of the high pressure nozzles and the nozzles have been changed, increasing the flow rate.
Tania says there's an option to buy interchangeable heads to create different sensations.
The women's showers are cold because the hot water is piped from across the other side of the complex. A circulation pump has been installed to try and address the issue.
Catherine says she's getting reports from pool users disappointed more maintenance hasn't been done.
'I was of the belief that anything minor would have been attended to while the pool was closed so you would have expected the seats to have been painted,” says Catherine.
'That sort of thing hasn't been done, which is disappointing, given the length of time it was closed.”
A professional cleaning company cleaned the complex prior to reopening and it is cleaned fully every day and checked every two hours for touch up cleaning as required.
The only maintenance work done in the changing rooms during the recent closure was repainting the floor of the women's changing rooms and repairing the shower mixers.
Because the redevelopment is not proceeding, a list of additional works is being prepared for presentation to council.



40 comments
I went yesterday...
Posted on 29-09-2011 11:09 | By wreck1080
And, the main pool was not that warm. I thought the whole point of the repairs was to boost water temperature? And, why didn't they give the pools a fresh lick of paint while they had the perfect opportunity. In my opinion, the pools are worse than pre-repair.
THE COST WAS $1.7 MILLION ODD
Posted on 29-09-2011 11:13 | By MASSA KISSED
I have been in there during the so called repairs and of course had to pay to try them after reopening, no change to tempertures before and after. So where did all of the money go and what for? perhaps a copy of the itemised account is needed online to ensure that most of the money paid by TCAL (ops I mean ratepayers new debt) was not a pay off for the cancelled lucrative contract for the whole thing. That of course means little work was actually done during the 18 week closure.
Simple Answer
Posted on 29-09-2011 11:31 | By tabatha
The members of TCAL need to fall on their sword and resign. Obviously they are incompetent in organising what is to be done. People who look after a pool complex need to be users and know what they are doing. I believe the pumping of water across the complex for women's showers is not new, someone made a mistake. It is obvious that the TCAL at the time of the fix up believed that their grand plan was still on the books. They were told to fix and fix not. Fancy concreting in a spa pool that was full on use. The person who authorised this MUST be held accountable. If a person in a normal business did this the boss would want to know why and possibly give them a piece of paper with final pay enclosed. People of Tauranga do not need a body that tries to pull the wool over peoples eyes. TCC take full control of the pools fire TCAL and get back the system that use to work.
half pie
Posted on 29-09-2011 11:37 | By trish
That would right once again our council not wanting to spend the money on the public and us rate payers. Half Pie job is not good enough. If I did my job half pie I would be sacked !!!
BUILDERS
Posted on 29-09-2011 11:51 | By WORMTONGUE
That is what you get when a builders has a go at fixing a pool.
SHOW US THE TENDER DOCUMENT
Posted on 29-09-2011 12:32 | By bigted
Is there one? For what repairs? How many tendered? So many questions. Too few answers!
If that was my business...
Posted on 29-09-2011 12:52 | By SpeakUp
...the whole management team would be sacked long ago due to incompetence. Actually, they wouldn't have gotten a job in the first place. They would likely be facing prosecution for a variety of white-collar charges.
Is it possible
Posted on 29-09-2011 13:19 | By Tony
That we could take TCC and this mob to fair go or Close up or something , Im heartly sick of this mob taking the Mickey out of us ? This CEO must go there is no question there is no golden hand shake its simple , You arent doing the job .,You are here by awared the D C M ...Dont Come Monday award
Answers! What Are They
Posted on 29-09-2011 13:41 | By tabatha
The number of questions that have been asked of TCAL on Sunlive is beyond comprehension. It is very obvious that anyone in TCAL who can answer the questions does not read Sunlive or they are scared, unwilling or just plain ignorant to answer questions from ratepayers in general. Willing to spend our money but not very co-operative in answering what we should be told. I dare someone from TCAL to answer what a lot of us have asked. The answers should be on Sunlive not hidden on some facebook or other page. Come on show us that you have a spine. Remember the pen is mighty than the sword. Or are they all going to fall on the sword and resign?
They cant win
Posted on 29-09-2011 13:55 | By maccachic
Everyone opposed the upgrade now they are winging they havent been upgraded. Jees you need to make up your minds!
@ MACACHIC
Posted on 29-09-2011 14:23 | By PLONKER
Please catch up on the last six months worth of news dude. They have said that they were spending $1.5 million on "repairs" (from depreciation, no cost toratepayers, and that don't figure???) forced upon them very slack maintenance resulting in leaks and so on. Right now they have spent over $2 million on that and the state of the place is a complete mess, as they say the state of the desk reflects the state of the mind. Quite clearly those who think that they are in charge here have not got a clue of what has / is / gunna be happening at anytime. It is time TCC took the obvious decision here (as recommended already) and "CULL" the dead wood, it is going to take a while ... cos thre is heaps of it but it has to be done.
Price up?
Posted on 29-09-2011 15:13 | By silverhair
Went to an aqua class and guess what a ten cent price rise? Not much i admit but for what, cold water again.
Surely you can't be surprised
Posted on 29-09-2011 15:51 | By Openknee8ted
TCC - The Chaos Council is only running true to form. Of course it is a mess. You should be surprised they remembered to put the water back in.
Disappointing re-opening
Posted on 29-09-2011 16:42 | By Adrian Muller
I have to add my comments about the sorry state, not just of the Pools, but Mauao tracks as well. What a shame all this is happening during RWC. On Wednedasy there were dozens of French tourists up the Mount, and I went out of my way to assure them they could enjoy the Hot Pools for a swim afterwards. Naturally my chagrin was 100% when I went to the pools myself, and found everythin "out of order" except for one main cold pool. Even more appalling is the way no attempt has been made in weeks, to repair the incomparable Oruahine (west-side) track. I followed the WELL WORN tracks which go around the ends of the blocking fences at either end of this track on Wednesday, as I had seen many locals going on this closed track over the past couple of months, so wonderd how bad it actually was. THERE IS HARDLY ANYTHING AT ALL WRONG WITH IT!! I took lots of photos to prove my point. There is one place of no more than 3 metres length where you need to walk single file, (Just like you used to have to do a few years back before the up-grade). What annoyed me even more, is that no one is there carrying out ANY repairs. Where are the workers resaponsible to repairing the tracks? If the big planks at the start of the track were moved up to the narrow bit, a team of retired old codgers like myself could carry out the repairs in half a day I reckon. You are far more likely to slip over on the fine loose gravel of the 4 wheel driver track that on Oruahine. WHY IS NOTHING BEING DONE TO REPAIR THIS BEAUTIFUL AND PREFERRED TACK?
Routine Maintenance
Posted on 29-09-2011 17:48 | By carpedeum
I for one would be MOST interested in the Council or TCAL or WHOEVER .... providing the last (say) 3-5 years of actual maintenance plus costings worksheet of the Hot Pools. Sounds as though regular basic maintenance has been sadly lacking all round.Perhaps thats where the "profit made" figures came from- just takings/monies in with no outgoings other than staff wages?
Politics
Posted on 29-09-2011 20:38 | By Hess
You could say they are doing as little as possible to justify there development dreams
What a Surprise
Posted on 30-09-2011 08:44 | By Jitter
This result after being closed for so long is disgusting. Isn't it time the TCAL CEO and senior staff were quietly shown the door and told "Don't come Monday". If the job had been carried out properly here would be no complaints from the public. It sounds from all reports that the pool complex is in a worse state than before. Mayor Crosby is making his usual wishy washy excuses. Another right cock up by a TCC controlled company. The reason given that the shade sail has not been replaced due to the mountings being corroded is unbelievable. During a closure for such an extended period any other commercial organisation would have carried out such repairs or replacement at the same time. TCAL senior "management" don't seem to have a clue on how to manage such an excercise. It looks as though, because TCAL $10 million planned upgrade has been canned they have thrown their toys out of the cot. Absolutely unbelievable.
NO SHOW
Posted on 30-09-2011 08:50 | By STRAITAS
Wednesday we, a selected few, where invited to an early morning breakfast at the Pools to celebrate the opening of the re-furbishment, we are the group of worried citizens/patrons that bought this debarkle to a head a couple of months ago. Anyway on first impressions we noticed the SunShade Cover removed one Spa Pool covered over and a whole lot of new lighting. When we went for a stroll we noticed already the "new poured non-slip concrete" has various major cracks, with the hot temperatures we get in the Bay there will be many more cracks appearing as the concrete dries out. TCAL need to be transparent as many of you have asked we want to see where this 1.2.million was spent, was it on the fix up or was it paying their wages I'm sure if it was exposed we probably won't moan as much "just show us"
thats our council
Posted on 30-09-2011 08:57 | By spanky
put the tolls up on route k and do a half ass job on the pools. no wonder ratepayers dont use these facilities.Get it together. Its the little things that stick in our minds. We have to live here
What we want to hear from councillors
Posted on 30-09-2011 09:14 | By Gee Really
isn't whether some people are too cold or too hot, but how they're (or should I say we) going to pay for all this. Will it be those who use the pools or those who pay rates?
Incredulous
Posted on 30-09-2011 13:02 | By festino lente
why on earth was it assumed that the appeal would go ahead let alone be successfull? Yet was used as a fundamental item in determining what work was carried out and what was not!!. What decent business has a timeline for opening, that has testing occuring post opening? The public/customers, are not guinea pigs. They are by default a business's bread and butter. As such you open ready to go. Looking sharp. All things working, tested and presenting the best possible business face available. Are these guys trying to go out of business. Why are warren banks, mike king, and tania delahunty still leading this company. It has been issue after issue for far too long now.
@ festino lente
Posted on 30-09-2011 15:09 | By Openknee8ted
This is TCC - The Chaos Council. Their motto "where common sense is the least common of all senses"
I WAS AT THE HOT POOLS YESTERDAY
Posted on 02-10-2011 14:46 | By ANNA KISSED
What a dissappointment, the main pool was "cold as" like air temperture, the second pool was hardly warmer at all and of course someone has majorly changed the water jets so that there is no pressure and you can not even sit under them properly like you could before, of course it is a pretty new piece of pipe but after that a compelte waste of time. The Spa pool would be described as "tempid" at best. Clearly all objectives have failed miserably here the facility is providing a service that is worse than before to its customers and that is after a spendup of $2 million or so. One seriously has to ask where actually that money went and why it took some 18 weeks merely to lay a bit a new concrete around the place. I know they said about pipes ... all that you can not see, but seriously if that is where the money went then there is nothing to show for it, it is a disaster!!!!
Gee Really asks ... a Cr responds ...
Posted on 03-10-2011 21:16 | By Murray.Guy
... but how they're (or should I say we) going to pay for all this. Will it be those who use the pools or those who pay rates?" .... It will be a mix of users and those who pay rates. however, where work done is redone, where money is wasted on consultants and consent processes (non-income generating expenditure), etc, this MUST BE rates funded. As with any business, our aquatics network has income and expenditure with ratepayers making up the difference. Wastage at the Hot Pools equates to reduced profit generated which must mean increased ratepayer subsidy.
@ MURRAY G-GUY
Posted on 04-10-2011 12:51 | By PLONKER
Come on Murray that is not a "good spin" on it at all, truth is that the place looses money, IT ALWAYS HAS AND ALWAYS WILL. it is only a question of how much, the more they do the more ratepayers have to throw money at it to keep it afloat. TCAL promised everyone that all of there silly schemes and plans would "not cost ratepayers" as it is all self funded, yeah right. Now you are saying that all along that was never the case, that means someone has been misleading the ratepayers of Tauranga again. Worse they can not even get a budget together that they are prepared to let out of confidential, that of course assumes it even exists. The rot starts at the top Murray, where do you sit in all of this? Either you know what was going on and so "approved" of it (doing nothing means you are an accessory to the fact), if you did not know then you and your co-hort seat warmers in chambers have failed the ratepayers, your employers. HOW DO YOU PLEAD MR GUY !!!!!!!!!
@ PLONKER
Posted on 05-10-2011 04:08 | By ANNA KISSED
they "spin" the stories so as they get the new toys, but this time they have managed to out do themselves. Word has it that King will be retiring back to Aussie on a one way ticket, of course if result was anything to go by the consultants bills would be refunded before he escapes.
NEWS FLASH ABOUT THE POOLS
Posted on 05-10-2011 14:09 | By YOGI
I was in Wakatane this morning and in the donut shop that were this bunch of GP's gasing about Councils, there was not a kind word spoken anywhere. It is amazing that the truth is spreading about this lot, when will they pick up there act and perform ... not in this life time I know!
EXIT LEFT
Posted on 06-10-2011 00:56 | By MASSA KISSED
I hear Warren Banks is going to, maybe at last a couple of good decisions appearing a lot more are needed yet, there is a glimmer of hope here at last.
WOW, THE MUPPET SHOW CONTINUES?
Posted on 06-10-2011 20:08 | By PLONKER
Maybe we wiLl get three out of three hear, the trifecta: Bank's King and Delahunty. If that all happens that means a bit of a change, but a bit a change maybe not an improvement for everyone else if the "ROT" is replaced and not cured. What MUPPETS are going to replace them MORE LIKELY THAN NOT "same same" and that means more conforming puppets performing the same chard show.
@ PLONKER
Posted on 08-10-2011 16:36 | By ANNA KISSED
What are the odds of that? if the odds were 100:1, I would have a quid or two on that. Only problem is that is that the change will be an improvement for ratepayers burden so it can not be true?
@ MURRAY
Posted on 09-10-2011 02:12 | By MISS ADVENTURE
Yes it will be users or ratepayers, not you, you and your co-councillors will of course continue to be paid by us despite the "quality" decisions that are being made. This of course is a good example of money gone, wasted and thre was never a need to to do that of course, but you did.
YES THE COMPLAINTS ARE BACK
Posted on 09-10-2011 17:32 | By PREDATOR
That is because $2 million is a lot of money, and thre appears to be little for all of this money showing up as a result.
IN THE FIRING LINE
Posted on 10-10-2011 17:48 | By ANNA KISSED
When are they a gunna tell us what has already been decided about the fate of the two TCAL Director's Mike King and Warren Banks. That they are washed up and flushed away ...
WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING AT TCC AND TCAL
Posted on 11-10-2011 12:59 | By Roadkill
But has the guard really changed. Word from within Tauranga City Council is that there has been a clean out at the top of TCAL at last, this occurred and was confirmed by Council about over week ago, however the company annual return filed (subsequent to the Council meeting) at the Companies Office website shows that no change has yet occurred officially? For your information and consideration are the following facts: - Mike King has gone because of: - 1 In-fighting, and 2 His personal and vested interests in the Wellness Centre and redevelopment of his own consulting company, and 3 The cost to TCAL and ratepayers of this failed "adventure", and 4 The cost to TCAL of all the travel and large amount of reimbursements, and Warren Banks is gone because of: - 1 His arrogance, and 2 Confrontational manner of conduct and behaviour in doing anything therefore upsetting staff and others (same as previous employment), and 3 Failed leadership as Chairman of director's of TCAL, and 4 Repeat effort of trying to get the Wellness Centre approved again, the same reasons as in 2000 still apply today, and 5 Failure to comply with elected members request for a business case and other information prior to applying for a resource consent and so on. They have been replaced by CEO Paterson and word has it that David Love has been "co-opted" to be a directors also, it is unknown who else is being considered at this time, is there a political element to the appointment(s) or what? The Director's regardless still lack financial and fiscal competence as a group and that is clearly what has been lacking to date and going forward there is no sign of an improvement CEO Delahunty is looking to be shrouded and thick cloud at this time, her future in this role is also being considered and is precarious also, the report before Councillors raises many questions on the remaining directors and senior management for the millions of dollars that have been needlessly spent and wasted on this badly planned and very badly managed project. The basis of it is flawed and that is known to all parties at TCAL hence the move at long last to do something to stem the outflow of cost of consultants, lawyers and staff cost all be it to late now in many respects. All of the above raises serious questions about the ability of the TCAL managements ability right through to the supervision and ability of the TCC management of TCAL such that somewhere in the region of $2.5 - $3.0 million in consultant and similar costs has been incurred to date. All of which is needless waste of ratepayers money as the Projects Committee in March 2000 "canned" a previous version of a project proposal at the Hot Pools for the same reasons, serious questions should be asked of those involved. There are a number of Councillors who were around at that time and have been a party to it now: namely the current Mayor was chairman of the Projects committee in 2000, he is well aware of what happened then so why has TCAL spent all of this money now for the same thing to fail and get the same result at a huge cost to ratepayers of some $4.0 - $4.5 million after adding in just some TCC staff wage costs. This only serves to reinforce the failure to TCAL to account to TCC and of TCC's inability to act and manage adequately on behalf of ratepayers best interests, but rather to follow a path of self interest and indulgence with little limitation or accountability. Does this reflect the general path and behaviour pattern of TCC generally? What assurances can TCC provide that this kind of conduct will not be allowed to occur again? Another question that comes to mind, that relates to why Deputy Mayor David Stewart resigned from TCAL early this year? When in fact he was appointed no doubt to represent TCC and so act responsibly for and on behalf of ratepayer's best interests, rather than that he resigned. As reported at the time the Mayor's "Yes-man" resigned.
FIASCO @ THE MOUNT HOT POOLS
Posted on 11-10-2011 14:54 | By Roadkill
Criticism of the repaired Mount Hot Pools is completely justified and the response from TCAL is divorced from the reality of the actual situation. The Mount Hot Pools re-opened at 4 p.m. Wednesday 21 September 2011. A swim the day after showed the water temperature in the main and passive pool was good but only average in the spa pool. The position for the following week was much the same according to all reports. At the official re-opening, temperatures were much lower and unsatisfactory. Patron numbers over the first week were quite light. As to the official Saturday re-opening and all the hype, why did TCC waste this money on a sausage sizzle that had stopped by 1.30 p.m., and employ a very good band that played Jazz but hardly a Hot Pool gig. There was reasonable attendance of mainly kids and parents. Let's look at to the repair work itself that took 18 weeks to complete sad the history of this; Following complaints and a public meeting about pool temperatures in May 2011, the Hot Pools were immediately shut down for investigation then closed permanently for repairs. The pool repair contract it seems without any tendering process and completely contrary to TCC's own procurement policy and guidelines, awarded to Mainzeal which is a building company, it is not a pool repair specialist. Somehow a figure of $1.5 million was arrived at for the repairs and approved by Council to be paid out from a depreciation account relating to the pools. The observation was that work began very slowly existing pipes were removed and slowly over the next 18 weeks gradually replaced. A check of the existing pipes taken out showed them to be in a good state although a bit less in diameter than the larger black replacement pipes. There were always plenty of vehicles there, but very little evidence of work on site. Finally the concourses were refilled and re-concreted in place of exposed aggregate. Once Hot Pools re-opened, an inspection showed the following: - (f) The original reason for closure was leak(s) of 50,000 litres per day, the source of which has never been located. When the main active pool was refilled recently it was found to be half-empty the next day, why was that? (g) The large shade sail, the supporting frame and anchor points from passive pool have all gone - where has the sail gone? Apparently some foundations (part of the non-consented redevelopment plans) for umbrellas have been put in place, but no umbrellas are currently there and apparently the 'huge” profits made don't run far enough to meet the cost of a couple of umbrellas which will be of no use to the passive pool users? Word has it that TCAL is 'hitting up” TCC for $30,000 for a couple of umbrellas? (h) The main spa pool is now concreted in and is unusable. (i) Those plastic cube clothes boxes were destroyed initially had not been replaced, so there was a shortage and what was left, in the end result looked terrible. (j) Two new main black light standards with banks of 4 lights each installed and some other smaller lights also. (k) Wooden deck platform near office ripped out - why? (l) The major concourses have been concreted with an inconsistent brush finish and are now cracking through lack of expansion joints and or inadequate compaction/use of vibrator etc. Parts of the exposed aggregate have been left in place near changing rooms entrances. (m) Showers - Cold water must be run for about 3 minutes, shower roses replaced in Women's Changing Rooms and floor painted. Men's Changing Rooms missing probably 15 chrome clothes hooks there previously, why are the hooks not there now? Nothing else done in there. (n) Spa pool temperatures are woefully short of target and water still looks murky. (o) Minor damage caused as a result of repair work has been ignored. (p) The four new water jets/spouts are a complete waste of time, poorly sited, no pressure and you can not effectively get close to them anyway. (q) It does not look like the facilities have been properly cleaned at all. (r) No sign of cleaning up the grouting of the pool tiles. None of the pool nib walls have been repainted yellow anywhere. With the pool facility closed and all pools emptied it was the perfect opportunity to clean and repaint all the pool facilities and clean it up a bit prior to reopening. (s) An access ramp for disabled people to enter the main pool or passive pool should have been by way of a concrete ramp - not a big item at all and easily accommodated. Even if the pools had remained closed for another week it would have been okay to complete this work. (t) Why was a specialist community swimming pool firm not engaged as the Head Contractor as that was the prime function and purpose of the contract works to be completed and it could have sub-contracted out for any construction work to the likes of Mainzeal for the minor work needed from them as part of the overall job. (u) This whole debacle has been running for years and in fact some aspects for a decade, yet the current management mindset appears completely oblivious to the following: - What is being spent Why it is being spent TCC procurement processes (that actually need an overhaul anyway) Clueless about what is actually been done, goals and purposes of the work to be done. Any appreciation of public opinion, refer to the chairman's comments that 'thought had public support”. TCAL absolute disdain for a minimum standard of accountability to its masters TCC and ratepayers but instead relentlessly barrelling onward with ratepayers cheque book through the consent and repair process without clearly achieving any objectives that they started out with. A failure to complete the tasks assigned to it by TCC e.g. provide development options, budgets and business plans. Spending millions on consultants on a project that had already been previously shelved in March 2000 by the then Projects committee (chairman at the time was Councillor Crosby) Spending millions on TCC staff wages dedicated to this project its planning and so on when the reasons for failure now were already known at least as far back as in 2000. (v) Paying for these works 'from depreciation” that has been provided for by TCC for TCAL's depreciation just does not add up, there are no obvious funds set aside in TCAL or TCC for this purpose. Regardless of the TCC 'smoke n mirrors” book keeping going on at TCAL and for that matter TCC, in the real world the repair bill is a cost and expense to TCAL and should be recorded clearly such. It is very difficult to see where the $1.5 million (likely to be closer to $2 million) has been spent and even more difficult to comprehend that there can be cost overruns. There needs to be a full independent investigation into this repair project and how it has been handled. Clearly there is no connection between 'results” and spending at TCAL or for that matter at TCC. Taking everything into account from a users point of view, the Hot Pools are in much worse shape than when they closed. Consideration must be given to setting up a Community group of about 7 people made up residents and regular users who currently have no relationship with TCC or TCAL to report back monthly on the Mount Hot Pools operation. They can report directly to TCC CEO Paterson with observations, recommendations and monitoring reports on progress made to get things at the Mount Hot Pools back on track. TCAL are impossible to deal with and the likelihood of change is remote, there needs to be a significant change in attitude. The current situation is a disgraceful fiasco, it almost looks like it is planned to fail so as to 'justify” next stage of an insanely expensive whim. Be warned the Wellness Centre is still in the mix. Friends of the Mount Hot Pools.
NOT A FIASCO AT ALL
Posted on 11-10-2011 16:21 | By MISS ADVENTURE
But far worse than that, I got that email a few days ago, so it must have been spread around a bit, good to see it all up here for all to read to. I hope Sun Live can look a bit more into this and get to the bottom of all the goings on at TCAL.
WARM POOL COMPLAINTS RESUME
Posted on 14-10-2011 18:12 | By PLONKER
Yes indeed, there was a little peace there for a while during the so called repair shut down period, but once reopened nothing changed so that of course is absolutely fair to get back into it right!
NO SALT IN THE POOLS
Posted on 17-10-2011 11:14 | By Crash test dummies
So the great idea now is that the town water supply is now warmed up and a few bags of salt added, like that makes it better, guess it is a stop gap result but truth is they may as well just have "hot pools" that is actually what the people want.
SALT OF THE PEPPER
Posted on 19-10-2011 20:49 | By WARTS N ALL
PLEASE just give us 'HOT WATER' we dont need salt.
TCC EXPERTISE - LEAKS
Posted on 20-10-2011 17:14 | By DRONE
Of anything or everything, Hot Pools before and now, Baywave, TCC finances and that will never end.
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