Chainsaws will be cutting into two historic pohutukawa trees in 2nd Avenue following the recommendation of the council's tree sub-committee yesterday.
Residents wanted three of the trees felled, but in a compromise that interim sub-committee chairman Murray Guy says will please no one, the sub-committee recommended one tree be topped and lopped, but only one will be felled.
One of the pohutukawas outside No.10 2nd Avenue will be felled.
'It wasn't a win/win outcome, it was a lose/lose outcome. But it was about mitigating the degree to which everybody had to carry some of the can,” says Murray today.
Residents at No.2 and 10 2nd Avenue say the historic trees block the sun and cause flooding by blocking drains and guttering.
No.2 resident Tony Mangnus told the sub-committee debris from the tree is shading the property turning it into an ice box in winter, and causing flooding in the courtyard and garage.
He's been a 2nd Ave resident for 40 years and when he arrived the tree was about 5metres high, which is about where it will be pruned back to with the crown reduced from its current 15metres.
The tree outside No.2 has been pruned three times since 2008 to address shading issues, with a heavy pruning undertaken in 2011. The one-off pruning will cost about $1500 plus GST, with the cost met by council.
No.10 property owner Caroline Sparkes wanted both trees outside her property felled. She is getting half of what she requested with one of the pohutukawas outside No.10 set to go.
The cost of cutting the tree will be $3160 and the costs will be paid by Caroline.
Since she purchased the flat in 2008 there have been several floods where water has overflowed the guttering and gotten inside the building. She began developing anxiety issues and moved out in 2009. She now rents the property out.
'I would very much like to return,” says Caroline.
A neighbour of Caroline's property says the flooding is caused by a design fault in the building and is not the fault of the trees.
Fibrolite has been laid flat between the spouting and the house so when the gutter overflows, the water crosses the fibrolite and into the wall cavity. He cut slots into the fibrolite and has no further problems. He told Caroline about the fix, but says she took no action.
Submitter Peter Robinson told the council committee the trees are 65-years-old and were there when the complainants moved in. He says the gutters at No.10 have been checked three times in six years with very little tree material found in the gutters.
The 2nd Avenue pohutukawa are part of the heritage of the city, says Peter. They were planted when there was less than 10,000 people in Tauranga and have grown with the city.
Horticulturalist Sandy Scarrow asked why Tauranga has such a difficult relationship with its trees. Tauranga is a young city but has few stands of large mature trees.
In a personal submission Keith Frenz told council the trees are public property and the council has responsibility for managing the public's property in the public interest – especially since it changed the rules wiping the protection of 1800 formerly protected trees on private property.
The council's tree management policy is supposed to ensure a continuity of management in the public interest, and cutting the trees is against that policy. Cutting the trees serves private interests, says Keith.
By applying the industry scale that councils use to determine whether a tree is protected or not, the 2nd Avenue pohutukawa all score a protected status, says Keith.
To be a protected tree, each tree needs to score 130. The 2nd Avenue trees outside No.2 rate 180 points, and the outside No.10 is 150 points.
'If they had been on private land they most likely would have been protected,” says Keith.
The discussion will bring about a change in the way the council manages its historical trees says Murray.
'A shift from council policy is involved because the degree of trimming and the budget associated with the management of these trees is to be increased and that is because of the significance to the wider community from a historical point of view,” says Murray.
'So rather than looking at what the issue with the tree is, in these historical precincts it's how can we better manage them, and we are doing it up at Brown Street at the moment with the parking and what have you.
'We are going to be asking the staff to look at that street (2nd Ave) and how we manage it, which includes the stormwater, the parking and the trees, rather than just ad hoc.
'You have to weight up the cost benefit and clearly the additional cost and benefit to the community in this instance is warranted.”



11 comments
murderers
Posted on 27-06-2013 12:28 | By the kurgan
Leave the life-giving oxygen-producing beautiful trees alone you bureaucratic a holes. One day in the future when your gasping for air, you will regret all this war on nature.
Tree Lovers
Posted on 27-06-2013 13:35 | By Kaimai
"Horticulturalist Sandy Scarrow asked why Tauranga has such a difficult relationship with its trees. Tauranga is a young city but has few stands of large mature trees." I'm not surprised we have no mature stands of trees, I don't let my trees grow tall, nor will I plant native trees in case some tree hugger prevents me from pruning, cutting or God forbid removing it. With a bit of flexibility and respect for property rights we might have more mature stands of trees.
EXPENSIIIVE!
Posted on 27-06-2013 13:36 | By delbridge
Can't believe how much it costs the Council to chop down a tree. Any cocky with a chainsaw would do the job for a fraction of the cost quoted.
@kurgan
Posted on 27-06-2013 13:46 | By Sambo Returns
come down off your throne, we are not talking about deforestation here, we are talking about addressing an issue with the damage being caused by a weed, which many councils and people ran around planting years ago, without looking at the damage they cause to property, keep them in open spaces, but never near housing or, footpaths, or drainage, if Mr Murray would like a few more suggestions of places to get rid of a few, I am only to happy to supply a list of places, and happily bring my own chainsaw, and clean up my own mess, and I can tell you vehemently, I am not a bureaucratic a hole!!!!.
I Love Trees But
Posted on 27-06-2013 14:11 | By mattldo
Funny how people use that phrase when it's the opposite of what they mean. Yet again Tauranga lives up to it's reputation of tree haters. 1- Many of the issues people complain of could be moderated with innovative building design. 2 - These trees are an asset that enhance the environment of any and all that find themselves in the streets of our city. Their loss is a loss to all of us. 3 - Topping is a dreadful way to manage trees, it locks you in to maintenance forever to mitigate the structural weaknesses you introduce and they never look as good as they once did. 4- remind me again, deserts get extremely hot, extremely cold and extremely windy because....?
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Posted on 27-06-2013 14:24 | By chancer
Pohutukawa trees are not suitable for suburban environments. Anyone complaining about the removal of these monstrosities should try living @ No. 10 2nd Ave and if you want to hug a Pohutakawa go over to The Mount, plenty around there which is there natural environment.
Loweez
Posted on 27-06-2013 14:58 | By Lois
I am totally on the side of Chancer, I have a huge avocado taking all our lovely sun in the neighbours property.
all you anti-tree
Posted on 27-06-2013 15:21 | By the kurgan
freaks will find enlightenment one day through conscious awareness which can be achieved by connecting with nature and allowing yourself to let go of the artificial technocratic world we have created and become one with your inner wisdom.
Costs
Posted on 27-06-2013 16:03 | By Murray.Guy
Delbridge suggests a 'cocky with a chainsaw' could get the tree down at a fraction of the cost. Absolutely correct if it was in the middle of a paddock and after chopping was burnt where it fell! The size and location unavoidably requires specialist treatment. and includes stump removal.
Trees dont belong in the road reserve
Posted on 27-06-2013 18:53 | By pushbikerider
The council spends lots fixing pavements and footpaths as a result of tree roots. I know that wasnt thought of when it was planted. I only hope the council parks and reserves team think very hard about where they plant replacement trees. For those tree huggers that think roads dont matter, perhaps you could leave your car at home for a change.
Democracy and False Economics
Posted on 28-06-2013 10:59 | By Sambo Returns
Kurgan I can only hope that you have slipped of your medication, as while most who live in this great country want to protect what we have, reality needs to visited by you, and I thought when a majority of people wanted something, they won, not as what is happening all to frequently the minority have all the say, I cannot quite understand that being Democracy, also Mr Murray states the cost of removing/pruning troublesome trees is rather expensive, well how does that equate to the millions of dollars this Council spends on flood protection and new drainage (or want to spend), plus insurance premiums, to me the more cost efficient method would be to remove problematic trees, freeing up clogged and damaged drains, thereby actually saving a few dollars, but hey what do I know, I only try to look for simple solutions.
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